Crassus
1:04 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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Cant argue with that - will add the mitigation of Julian's injuries which hampered him and no doubt frustrated him not being what he could have been
That said, I concede there were times when he was a downright liability and having trecked to some God foresaken northern mill town to see him play up did attract a degree of ire but like childhood summers, I prefer to remember the warm balmy days
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Takashi Miike
12:25 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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I agree, Julian was brilliant
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neilalex
12:18 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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Yeah I'd agree with that, Pearce made the most of a lesser talent.
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cholo
12:18 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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Dicks technically better I'd say but let's be honest,a liability at times with his lack of temperament, both great players and hard as nails but only one truly fulfilled his potential.
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neilalex
12:12 Sat Feb 27
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Dicks was definitely a better footballer than Pearce, people forget how technically good Julian was. I've never actually seen anyone else seem to run games from full back as he occasionally did.
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Crassus
12:07 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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On Pearce, a good player who became a great pro over the years, but I always held something of an irrational grudge - Julian was the better player in my mind at the time and all this Psycho thing, pissed me off.
We had Psycho at our place previously, just as we did the original Pop Robson.
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neilalex
11:57 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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Crassus/Itchy - I can't remember mate truth be told, as you say it's thirty years all of a sudden. Just remember this relatively unknown full back with legs like tree trunks clattering everybody and particularly Wardy.
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Dan M
11:57 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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As I remember, that season we managed to lose 0-1, 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 and 4-5 in away games.
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cholo
11:40 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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The 3-2 and 3-3 matches were both epics, in the former an aging bonzo received a cut to the head and played the rest of the game in a bandage like the bloody hero he was. In the 3-3 we came back from 1-3 down with Leroy scoring an unbelievable diving header equaliser.
Both proper footballing teams with legendary managers.
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Crassus
11:04 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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Neil
Just had a quick look at Wardy v Forest at home mate
In his time we had a 3-3 a 3-2 and a 4-2 which of those was the game I remember I dont know, suspect the 4-2
Bllody frightening at just how long ago that period was, thick end of thirty years
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Sven Roeder
10:51 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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From a review of Mark Ward's book .....
He played for and alongside some of the game’s larger-than-life characters, and where many memoirs only hint at the sort of high-jinks and escapades that go on behind the scenes, Ward wades right in and describes with relish the gambling and drinking culture that was prevalent during his career, especially at clubs managed by one of his heroes, Howard Kendall.
He clearly loves Kendall’s no-nonsense approach to life, typified by how he tried to resolve a hitch in the deal that saw Ward move from West Ham to Manchester City in exchange for Ian Bishop and Trevor Morley. With Morley holding proceedings up by demanding that West Ham pay for his wife’s horse to be transported down to London, Kendall realised that Ward’s wife also owned one, stabled in Essex. “It’s simple,” he said. “Just swap horses.”
Ward adopted a similar style during his brief stint at management at Altrincham. When he took over, he wasn’t impressed by Leroy Chambers’ tattoo declaring “Only God will judge me”, and said: “I judged him after five minutes – and sent him on loan to Frickley Athletic.”
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Cc
10:47 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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Yes Ward went to Man City and Morley and Bish came the other way, not sure if there was any cash involved, think it might have been just a player swap.
And Jimmy Quinn joined in the same week, I think it was Bradford he'd been Banging goals in for. I remember him looking like a 40'year old man when we signed him but he certainly knew where the goal was.
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Itchy Scratchy
3:40 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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Neilalex, Pearce went from Coventry to Nottm F so not just up from non league.
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Leeshere
2:53 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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Seem to remember Ward leaving around Christmas 89, we got Morley and Bishop for him and I think signed Jimmy Quinn within the same week.
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Spandex Sidney
2:28 Sat Feb 27
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Didn't Mark Ward leave straight after we were relegated and we got the magnificent Bishop and Morley?
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Bullet
2:08 Sat Feb 27
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Just a very impressive player was Wardy.
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Bullet
2:07 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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I agree Mark Ward was deceptive as he didn't look like he would cause much trouble, in reality he was a very quick and tricky player who seemed to get past his man regularly on the right wing as I remember and impossible to catch, causing havoc. Never went in the Chicken run much but was in there one game and could see how quick he was up close.
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Takashi Miike
1:41 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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Pearce says it in his autobiography called 'Psycho'
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Takashi Miike
1:39 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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Pearce described Ward as one of the trickiest wingers he'd played against
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neilalex
1:33 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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Crassus - really? Long time ago mate and I can't remember the specific game. Just remember Wardy being murdered by Pearce, who'd just moved up from non league?
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Crassus
12:26 Sat Feb 27
Re: Perry Suckling on Lou Macari and Billy Bonds 89/90: "Don't ever come back Perry"
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Neil
Fuck me I remember him ripping Forest an absolute new one in a fixture at UP - high scoring game 4-3 perhaps but a brilliant game where he slaughtered them
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